Could someone please explain the absence of criticism from the likes of Bill Clinton,Obama and the rest of the liberal left as to the violent protest that occurred in Arizona this weekend? Seems the left is more concerned about the rights of[b]illegal  aliens than it is with tax paying citizens who protest peacefully yet are deemed a threat.

Mr. Obama has stated that the law is misguided and yet data from the Dept. of Homeland Security shows the number of illegals to be mainly from the countries who are supposedly targeted.
Country of origin Raw number Percent of total Percent change 2000 to 2006
Mexico 6,570,000 57 69%
El Salvador 510,000 4 9%
Guatemala 430,000 4 8%
Philippines 280,000 2 4%
Honduras 280,000 2 5%
India 270,000 2 5%

What I find most interesting is that Bill Crystal, who I believe a lawyer, said that he has read the Arizona law and it is almost word for word the same as the federal statute.  I sort of think this is just political hay to divert our attention from the fact that the Federal Govt. is unwilling to help the border states solve their serious problems.

Seems to me that if the so called non-existent Liberal left wanted to protest something they would. Is your question not better placed as to where are the fanatical right protesters. After all if one gives the police the right to question anybody at anytime and arrest them and hold them in jail because they do not carry ID the so called protectors of our society the conservative hypocrite’s would have lined up. They did not.

Obviously there is no comparison between Federal Law and the poorly worded and ill thought out Arizona unconstitutional actions.

I have read many articles recently and truly find most of it a joke. In Europe carrying ID is common place and required by law. It infringes on nothing.

Freedom loving Americans should never go to fascist Arizona who do not believe in freedom of movement. Unless ofcourse you are conservative fascist loving gits eh….

You cannot have it both ways. ID for all or no ID.

Former President Bill Clinton today broadened his warning that Tea Party protesters could fuel violence reminiscent of the Oklahoma City bombing, suggesting “right-wing media” and the blogosphere could be culpable for any future politically fueled extremism as well.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/politics/clinton_demonization_could_turn_zGS9Abilcugyprork87IuI#ixzz0mJwrfDsg

I repeat my original question for you Jim. Where are all the Liberal left mouthpieces condemning the actions of the Arizona protestors in support of ILLEGALS?

Americans have nothing to fear by visiting Arizona or any of the other 49 states. If left to the devices of the Liberal left(yes they do exist!) noone would have to fear visiting or even emigrating to any of the 50 states either. And if asked for ID,they could simply chant “Rascist profiling” .What immigration laws? Bah they are for someone else,not us.
Pack up a busload or two of your freedom loving liberals for a trip to Mexico City and hold a rally protesting the Mexican government’s policies and see what kind of reception you’ll receive.

Since you seem to believe that left leaning Liberals are a figment of someone’s imagination,I suppose that fascists and right wing extremists can be viewed in the same way….as being non-existent.

Americans have everything to fear by visiting the fascist State of Arizona. A state that has lost all concept of freedom of movement. Americans can fear being imprisoned by redneck cops hell bent on how long is your hair, how short is your skirt and why your sun tan is not the same.

Bad Law.

ID or no ID That is the question.

Conservative cowards try to blame their stupidity on Liberals in general. Yup you’ve seen it before, NO ideas NO arguments just fascist ideals.

Excuse me but I posted the original question which has remained unanswered as yet and it was not whether Americans should have ID’s or not. It was wanting to know where is the outrage from the Liberal left over a violent demonstration in Arizona? Have any Tea Partiers spread refried beans on the offices of any governments or thrown bottles at police? Why are these acts overlooked as innocuous by the left? The American people are the victims in this issue and not the illegal aliens. Stop making excuses for anarchists.

After all if one gives the police the right to question anybody at anytime and arrest them and hold them in jail because they do not carry ID…

Jim, you might try reading the bill instead of resorting, as you always do, to adolescent name calling and regurgitating Maddow/Olberman/Matthews epithets and talking points.

A subscription to cart banche abuse. Nothing more nothing less. Glenn you do not have to watch the whole porn movie to know it is porn. Of course you can support a poorly written law which infringes on Americans constitutional rights. That is your choice. I assume as you did nothing but make a personal attack and added nothing to the discussion that you have either no idea no argument or possibly could care less about the law and its ramifications. As far as Maddow/Olberman/Matthews epithets and talking points I have not read them and please do not send the link I try to formulate my own opinions from U/I sources.  I will research further if it becomes necessary.  You may find the following of interest.

Arizona Immigration Law

How does one look alien? How does one look illegal? What a farce.

John Campbell how could you fail to answer JK’s primary question? I mean lets face it the law in question and it’s application are totally irrelevant eh….

“In late April, Arizona passed a sweeping and controversial immigration bill authorizing police officers to stop suspected illegal immigrants and demand proof of citizenship. “
This little blurt from the totally unbiased Huffington Post only proves that they along with the liberal left have failed to read the bill choosing instead to create hysteria through misinformation.
http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070h.pdf
No place in this bill gives police any authority to stop individuals randomly solely for the purpose of checking ID.

“Of course you can support a poorly written law which infringes on Americans constitutional rights.”
Why not? You support the Health Care Reform Act?
Can you say double standard boys and girls? Tea Partiers show a swastika symbol and are called Nazis and fascists by the left and a former president tries to tie their actions to an extremist bomber.
Immigration protestors smear swastika symbols on government buildings and pelt police with bottles and the left remain silent.
So it is a terrorist act to be an American citizen and protest the government but it is patriotism to defend illegal non-citizens in this country.
The provisions in the Arizona law are already in the Federal laws on immigration status and were approved by the same liberal left people protesting the Arizona law.What hypocrisy.

“How does one look alien? How does one look illegal?”
The very same way that one looks and behaves suspiciously. By opposing the so-called carte blanche powers given to the police are you also saying that DWI checkpoints are illegal as well as routine inspections for vehicle registration? How about checking for proper identification for border crossings? Would that also be unconstitutional because we ‘re profiling and singling out individuals to check their papers?

Constitutional rights also carry with them Constitutional responsibilities and are a part of holding citizenship in this country.Illegal aliens are not citizens and since they choose to ignore their citizens responsibilities they relinquish any access to citizen rights.

Don’t confuse him with facts, John.

JK
I am not sure where you found the quote

“In late April, Arizona passed a sweeping and controversial immigration bill authorizing police officers to stop suspected illegal immigrants and demand proof of citizenship.

It is not a blurt and it is not accurate.
What I intended to link was an article by Megan McCain which is in the Huffington revolving slide show of articles presenting both sides of the argument. I think it is currently at number 12. It is pure ignorance that would make one believe that the Huffington Post editors have not read the law. Reality check 101 would prove to even the dumbest that the law cannot be exercised without breaking the laws of the land.  Of course those who believe in the police state and authoritarian rule will love this misguided attempt at immigration control.  The following is an amazing disingenuous statement

No place in this bill gives police any authority to stop individuals randomly solely for the purpose of checking ID.

What do the police do when they stop someone, anyone their little hearts desire - yeah they check for ID. Now Americans risk imprisonment if they do not carry ID which is not required by US Law. Opps sorry got that wrong is not good enough.
Yup and here’s another gem from JK the defender of all that must be black and white, all that must be perfection pure, laws cannot exist unless they are 100% prior to enacting

“Of course you can support a poorly written law which infringes on Americans constitutional rights.”

OOOOOHHH flip flip flip flop flip flop

Now I happen to accept that imperfection in our legislative system. And I do not flip flop from topic to topic about it. Your argument does not even have the substance of a flip or a flop. Simply disingenuous bull shit.

Now we get to the heart of just how bad the law is and just how extremist the lovers of a police state can be:

“How does one look alien? How does one look illegal?”
The very same way that one looks and behaves suspiciously.

Yes you will find this amazing but words to describe the stupidity of that reasoning just fail to emerge.

Populist blindness attempting to eliminate a disease can create a bubble of toxins and unwanted effect of over reaction. It will not be the first time that over zealous conservatives have been proven to be on the wrong side of the law and I am sure it will not be the last.

Did you read the bill, Jim?  It does not establish probable cause.  What’s so difficult to understand about that?

This is a comedy act and in reality I believe they will find the law is not workable. Many legal opinions and others point out the law will not survive the 90 period.

Here is an interesting quote

It’s worth noting that Brewer herself provided little guidance as she explained her decision to sign the bill. When she was asked at a news conference how illegal immigrants would be identified, she said, “I do not know what an illegal immigrant looks like. I can tell you that I think that there are people in Arizona that assume they know what an illegal immigrant looks like. I don’t know if they know that for a fact or not.”

Yeah sure..
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/apr/28/alfredo-gutierrez/arizona-immigration-law-allows-police-question-any/

Jim,
The quote in question is from the article for which YOU provided the link.
“What do the police do when they stop someone, anyone their little hearts desire - yeah they check for ID. Now Americans risk imprisonment if they do not carry ID which is not required by US Law.”
Last time I checked it was a legal requirement in the US to be in possession of a driver’s license when operating a motor vehicle so it is not unusual for any police officer to request said license. The only Americans in danger of jail time are those who are not obeying the existing laws.And just for the record ALIENS are required by US Law to be in possession of ID at all times. Does that mean you are also opposed to current U.S. Immigration laws concerning identification?
Now I happen to accept that imperfection in our legislative system.
What are you trying to say? Do you accept that all laws may contain infringements on Constitutional rights or are you only opposed to those you do not care for?
Yes you will find this amazing but words to describe the stupidity of that reasoning just fail to emerge.
You know you’re right. How anyone could glean that tidbit from the bill as written is amazing.Just where in the bill is the passage that gives the police authority to detain someone based on their looks? Oops I forgot.You don’t have to read the whole bill to know what’s in it.
And I do not flip flop from topic to topic about it
I saved the best for last. May I remind you of the original question in this thread and who chose to ignore the question and concentrate instead on the bill which is the source of the protests? Now which is it? Do you have no answer for the original quuestion or are you ashamed to admit the hypocrisy of the left?

Jk that link went to a revolving door of articles as I explained earlier. I have no idea which article you are talking about.  Last I heard US citizens do not have to carry ID and there is no National ID card. With all the fanatical right wing activity and patgriot this and flag-wearing that it could have changed though I think I would have heard about that change eh.. It would be a fascist national holiday probably hosted by the Tea Party & Snake Oil Solidarity 2012 Foundation eh…

Again as I have pointed out over here in Europe I have been carrying ID for the last 40 years and I find no infringement on my rights to do so. So of course your assumptions based on not reading my previous posts are as usual wrong.  This is of course Europe where things have been done differently for centuries. Not the USA where freedom of movement was cherished and police state interference was despised. Frustration is no excuse for ignoring the laws of the country.
So you are quite wrong in your assumption that US citizens are not at risk.

Now I happen to accept that imperfection in our legislative system.

Yup thats what I said and that’s what I meant. The world is not black and white JK. Sooner you learn that the better for all. Facilities are available at all levels of government to correct or as too often done cosmetically cover up imperfections. You Mr. 100% perfection legislation prior to enactment are showing the latter to suite your extremist needs.

Your so called original question was answered by no one. Yes it’s tough to be ignored JK. There is a reason for that JK and that is it is totally irrelevant when compared side by side with your beloved police state.